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Clash of the Rankings 2024: Inefficient Guards

Last year, we highlighted some of the biggest differences between our player rankings model and those from national sources (link) and about 75% we identified in the article were correct. The most notable being Tyrese Proctor who was getting All American hype. Let’s take a look at some of the biggest differences this year.

Inefficient Guards

You can look down other rankings and find small guards, one after another, barely reaching 50% true shooting—many of them competing against weaker schedules last year, like Ryan Nembhard or Aidan Mahaney—yet still posting poor percentages or performing on low usage. Nembhard, in particular, did most of his damage against the easier WCC conferences only portion, yet some, like Sports Illustrated, project him as an All-American.

PERTS%ORtgDRtg
Ryan Nembhard16.60.526115.8103.8
WCC (11th Rk Conf)22.60.597128.9102.7

Many others, had small usage roles, like Tyrese Proctor , or struggled with sub-.490 true shooting, like Elliot Cadeau. In my opinion, it’s difficult to justify ranking such inefficient players.

TRN Ranking Under ADJeff by 2023-24 stats

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#1
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#2
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#3
CBSOn3TRN
1835232643Ryan Nembhard148
3434664471Tyrese Proctor197
8777486777Pop Isaacs228
4737373255Dajuan Harris221
745590Kylan Boswell229
175+947595Tyrese Hunter237
32245677448Aidan Mahaney283
522998Jaden Bradley287
8976102+Dallin Hall296
67477785102Elliot Cadeau319
All
Big10
3758882Dylan Andrews334
979892102+66DJ Wagner336
Def
SOS
Faced
PERTS%DRtg
Ryan Nembhard12.6 Pts, 4.0 Reb, 6.9 Ast10016.60.526103.8
Tyrese Proctor10.5 Pts, 3.0 Reb, 3.7 Ast3214.40.545104.2
Pop Isaacs15.8 Pts, 3.2 Reb, 3.5 Ast2813.90.484107.1
Dajuan Harris8.5 Pts, 2.0 Reb, 6.5 Ast312.00.513105.2
Kylan Boswell9.6 Pts, 2.3 Reb, 3.6 Ast3413.60.519100.1
Tyrese Hunter11.1 Pts, 2.9 Reb, 4.1 Ast1813.60539104.5
Aidan Mahaney13.9 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 2.6 Ast12513.60.50698.6
Jaden Bradley7.0 Pts, 2.4 Reb, 2.0 Ast3414.60.56099.1
Dallin Hall9.0 Pts, 3.5 Reb, 5.1 Ast3014.50.542103.6
Elliot Cadeau7.3 Pts, 2.2 Reb, 4.1 Ast1611.70.475103.9
Dylan Andrews12.9 Pts, 2.2 Reb, 3.7 Ast5112.60489108.2
DJ Wagner9.9 Pts, 1.9 Reb, 3.3 Ast7912.70.496113.6

Comparison to other Guards

There are plenty of other guards with better statistical profiles against tougher schedules (SOS), playing on teams with less talent where the defensive pressure on them as high-usage players is much greater. I’d argue that these roles are much harder to be efficient in. As a guard, their defensive impact within a team structure is also much less significant, so it’s hard to blame them for the majority what happens behind on defense or for the surrounding talent. It’s a team game and they can only control their part of it.

Here are a few examples. (CBS didn’t have any in their top 100)

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#2
CBSTRN
101-175184Dre Davis32
101-175296Khalif Battle45
176+432Kanye Clary60
176+251Chance McMillian86
176+411Jordan Pope90
99367Kevin Miller91
176+374Sincere Parker97
Def
SOS
Faced
PERTS%DRtg
Dre Davis15.0 Pts, 5.9 Reb, 1.6 Ast6321.10.577104.5
Khalif Battle14.8 Pts, 3.3 Reb, 1.3 Ast8721.10.599112
Kanye Clary16.7 Pts, 2.9 Reb, 2.8 Ast5920.10.555108.7
Chance McMillian10.8 Pts, 4.0 Reb, 1.2 Ast2817.50.624106.9
Jordan Pope17.6 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 3.4 Ast4618.30.566114.7
Kevin Miller15.6 Pts, 2.8 Reb, 3.5 Ast3119.00.569105.5
Sincere Parker15.9 Pts, 4.3 Reb, 0.9 Ast8130.00.595111

A player much lower on my list Javian McCollum I believe is a comparable talent, and if placed on Gonzaga would like be able to produce at least 90% of what Nembhard did for example. If anything, there’s far less pressure on a team as loaded as Gonzaga, with many easy assist opportunities with talent all around you, and a strong defense behind them, to play that low-usage, game-manager role.

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#2
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CBSTRN
176+432Kanye Clary60
18352326Ryan Nembhard148
176+428Javian McCollum218
Def
SOS
Faced
PERTS%DRtg
Kanye Clary16.7 Pts, 2.9 Reb, 2.8 Ast5920.10.555108.7
Ryan Nembhard12.6 Pts, 4.0 Reb, 6.9 Ast10016.60.526103.8
Javian McCollum13.3 Pts, 2.6 Reb, 3.4 Ast1715.10.543105.4

The statistical profile of someone like Nembhard isn’t even comparable to a player like Dre Davis beyond just the advanced stats I posted. It’s baffling how the narrative surrounds some of these players with little tangible individual statistical success on the court.

Comparison to Bigs

These players provide incredible value and are ranked in major conferences or nationally in key analytics like PER, True Shooting, Offensive and Defensive Ratings/Net Differential, BPM, and more. They are per-minute elites, often overlooked, some even with impressive counting stats. You can’t argue against their efficiency—they make a higher percentage of baskets, and in most cases, it’s not even close. For many of them, it’s simply a matter of how many minutes they play. Even in less minutes they usually provide more value as well.

(Only Schieffelin made the CBS top 100 at 99th)

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#1
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TRN
176+113Lynn Kidd14
176+115Ian Schieffelin17
101-175218O’mar Stanley27
176+618Tyler Bilodeau57
Def
SOS
Faced
PERTS%DRtg
Lynn Kidd13.2 Pts, 6.5 Reb, 1.1 Ast2327.60.700102.6
Ian Schieffelin10.1 Pts, 9.4 Reb, 2.2 Ast4722.50.636101.3
O’mar Stanley12.7 Pts, 6.6 Reb, 1.5 Ast5424.20.60798.9
Tyler Bilodeau14.3 Pts, 5.7 Reb, 1.2 Ast4620.30.616108.5

A player shooting 70% against a top-25 defensive SOS at Virginia Tech is ranked outside the top 176+, while a game manager like Ryan Nembhard is ranked as high as 18? I completely disagree with that value assessment and the comparison of what each player provides. If you put a player like Kidd against the 100th defensive SOS on Gonzaga, he would dominate as well—there’s little doubt. I’m not sure Nembhard would have performed as well as Sean Pedulla did in a similar role at Virginia Tech. These are just a few examples I see in the rankings that make little statistical sense to me or how you arrive that he is a top 20 player where as Pedulla didn’t make the top 175 of the same outlet that had Nembhard #18.

Final Comparison

Which one actually looks like a Top 35 Player in value? I know where I fall.

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#1
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TRN
176+113Lynn Kidd14
1835Ryan Nembhard148
3434Tyrese Proctor197
Def
SOS
Faced
PERTS%DRtg
Lynn Kidd13.2 Pts, 6.5 Reb, 1.1 Ast2327.60.700102.6
Ryan Nembhard12.6 Pts, 4.0 Reb, 6.9 Ast10016.60.526103.8
Tyrese Proctor10.5 Pts, 3.0 Reb, 3.7 Ast3214.40.545104.2

Even if you dismiss the obvious greater value of big men on both ends and doing things like averaging 13.2ppg on .700% true shooting like Lynn Kidd, there are still many proven guards with better statistics than some of those chosen by groupthink, in my opinion.

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